Dutch DVD releases

The Workaholic · Post by **The Workaholic** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:48 am

Does season 3 have French or original credits ?

Norbert · Post by **Norbert** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:56 pm

As series 3 was never aired in France, there are no French credits possible in this series.

Frankymole · Post by **Frankymole** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:46 pm

Norbert wrote:Strange!

Are the episodes at least complete? For example, the French version of "Castle De'ath" runs only hardly 48 minutes, whereas the English original runs almost 50 minutes.

Question from Roobarb's Forum:

Are you sure that the runningtime issues mentioned on the French sets are not due to the 4% PAL speedup? The A&E (24 frames per second, NTSC) running times are 51 minutes per episode. On PAL (25 fps) they run 49 minutes.

Peter Motte · Post by **Peter Motte** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:17 pm

I think we use PAL in Belgium too, which means that my measurements wouldn't provide accurate information to Allard.

Post by **Allard** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:39 pm

No that would not be a problem because if every episode would loose or gain the same percentage of time per episode, it would proof that the episode have not been cut or that from every episode the same amount of seconds was cut. The latter being quite unlikely, it would still show whether there has been cut or not. But please only do so if you want to.

Philippa · Post by **Philippa** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:39 pm

We all use PAL in Europe, NTSC is for North America I believe

Norbert · Post by **Norbert** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:12 pm

I compared the French version of CASTLE DE'ATH (DVD) with the English (Lumière video) and the German version (videotaped). Several scenes are missing in the French version. In this file, the missing scenes are described (in French):
http://theavengers.fr/saison4/episodes4 ... _death.htm

The German version is incomplete, as well, but it runs longer than the French version. All scenes missing in France, are intact here.

Peter Motte · Post by **Peter Motte** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:11 pm

Watched today: Brief for Murder,
from 10.10 till 11.02, that is from the moment the ABC-screen appears (those three dishes) and the final ABC-screen disappears.
So, that makes 52 minutes.
And, the box mentions "PAL".
So, 52 minutes is rather long. I don't think they have cut anything.
By the way: if they would have cut something, what would they have cut? It looks to me as if cutting parts would actually be much more costly than just ram the original full length on disc.

Peter Motte · Post by **Peter Motte** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:13 pm

Philippa wrote:We all use PAL in Europe, NTSC is for North America I believe

The odd thing is that I have several David Bowie dvd's here.
Now, "David Bowie. A Reality Tour" mentions PAL on the box.
However, "David Bowie. Glass Spider" mentions NTSC on the box!
Both work, at least: both work on my computer dvd drives. I haven't tried them on the television dvd drive yet.

Last watched: Brief for Murder

Peter Motte · Post by **Peter Motte** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:15 pm

Norbert wrote:I compared the French version of CASTLE DE'ATH (DVD) with the English (Lumière video) and the German version (videotaped). Several scenes are missing in the French version. In this file, the missing scenes are described (in French):
http://theavengers.fr/saison4/episodes4 ... _death.htm

The German version is incomplete, as well, but it runs longer than the French version. All scenes missing in France, are intact here.

Dear, oh dear...

Last watched: Brief for Murder