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Top 10 and Bottom 5!
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As I recall from the aims of the piece ...cyberrich wrote:I have this magazine. The top 10 aren't bad choices. Not the best 10 episodes admittedly, but I think they were trying to represent all the different eras. The hour that never was is an unforgivable oversight
Found your comments very interesting! And it's odd thinking back almost twenty years to what the thinking was behind the choices. Added to the fact that my own feelings about good and not-so-good episodes for almost any series changes from week to week ...denis rigg wrote:I find that the episodes in Ten are chosen well too, If look at it from the perspective of not the Top 10, but simply as a succesful components of series.![]()
The structure of choice is nice, though this would was more fair, if Cathy Gale era contained two episode too as well as Emma Peel b/w episodes:
Cathy Gale
Dressed to Kill
Emma Peel b/w era
The Cybernauts
A Touch of Brimstone
The House that Jack Built
Emma Peel color era
From Venus with Love
The Winged Avenger
Tara King
Look (stop me if...
Fog
TNA
The Eagle's Nest
Target
I was thinking about The Hour That Never Was on moment postingand... well
, I would agreed to remove The Cybernautes to the side to insert it in Ten.
Frankly, I always believed that the Cybernautes are rather a huge favorite for the American public, even though on first run there was a bad reaction to the episode. Indeed, if to read American comics about the series, then sometimes you get the impression that cybernautes is one of the main Avengers components.
In Russia, for example, the same approach to the episode The Joker, and if there were official products about the series, possibly there could was to guess what it would be for start.![]()
In any country are own preferences, and although definitely The Cybernautes is a good episode, for that things look more fair from my point of view, I'm not afraid to say it again: I would be willing to replace it with The Hour That Never Was, or Too Many Christmas Trees (classic succesful episodes for many viewers in different counties).
Other good but controversial episode, in my opinion, there is Fog.
Although personally Fog is of my favorites, I know many people who did not like episode or they could not even watch it to the end.
As for the rest in Ten - all episodes are acceptable for enjoy to many. Although personally I do not like The Winged Avenger.
Oh, situation with the worst episodes are, that it always more difficult to assess than the best. I noticed, many do not get so upset when an episode that they think is bad turns to be in favourites for many, than when their favorite episode turns to be one of their worst.Well, I'm not very tended to frustrations because of my optimistic and eccentric nature, but this fun to see that two personal love episodes turns in Bottom 5.
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I agree, it is very difficult to make an approach to the evaluation of episodes of any series, so that the requests are satisfied as many people as possible. Result, the magazine as a whole presents a very qualitative approach to the topic, and it is well felt that there has been done effort. Cheers.
Swapping "Brimstone" with "Hour" is *precisely* what I'd have done personally ... except for the fact that we needed "Brimstone" in there because of its infamous status.cyberrich wrote:Nice to read your reply Andrew. I hadn't realised you were involved. I've still got the magazine which I bought at the time. As I say, I can see the point of the exercise was to give an overview representing all seasons, rather than the best 10. I actually don't think the choices are bad at all. I would probably swap Dressed to kill with Wringer and Brimstone with Hour that never was, and leave the rest.
I'm actually increasingly fond of "The £50,000 Breakfast" as well these days ... mainly because it varies the tone of the colour Emma Peel run.I think your bottom 5 was pretty spot on, though Breakfast has grown on me over the years. I'd promote that one and add Earthmen to the bottom 5 these days. Rich.
Happy to help when I get chance ...denis rigg wrote:Andrew, many thanks for your excellent thorough look at the topic, it's always enjoy to read your comments, as we both are sort of people which very love the details.
"From Venus with Love": a good, solid example of colour Emma Peel era featuring a recognisable guest star for the "Doctor Who" readershipSo great to know why many of these episodes were selected for magazine and this leads me to some questions that I wanted to ask you.![]()
1. Although it can be foreseen why were selected the episodes From Venus with Love, The Eagle's Nest and Trap for magazine, it's interesting to hear your opinion for it, Andrew.![]()
"The Cybernauts" would be No 1 as a strong accessible episode ... generally on grounds of descending accessibility/fun - hence low placing of the one VT episode ...2. Youe opinion, why the countdown of episodes in best Ten of British magazine began exactly since the episode The Cybernauts (which is rather an American favorite, while choice of true Britain usually goes for another sort of favorite episodes like The House That Jack Built, Too Many Christmas Trees, The Hour That Never Was and some others).
Frankly it's a toss-up between any of the John Bryce 1968 episodes; all three was over-doing it a bit and mis-representing the era, so we just chose the two that were most obviously cut-and-shunt jobs.3. Perhaps the most interesting question.
For a long time there was, I think, a tradition that the worst episodes in the Tara era are Homicide and old Lace, and Invasion of the Earthmen. Why do you think was chosen other approach for it in magazine?
Notion would have come from the editor, the rather brilliant Richard Atkinson, and would have been squarely to tie in with the movie. Don't recall any other variations.4. It's interesting to hear a story about your Feature in this magazine. Who suggested for it? Have you had any other variants for this Feature, when worked with it?
Not that I recall.5. Was there something the magazine planned to post in this section, but it was rejected on some point?![]()