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She's an Ulster gal through and through - she *did* wear a lot of orange...Captain Crusoe wrote: "Tara King" is a very Irish name and she had an Irish uncle, so presumably she was at least half-Irish. That somehow seemed to undercut the "for King and country" bit for me. I spent a large part of Wish You Were Here wondering about Tara's sense of national identity. How committed to the British state did she feel, given the history of those two nations?
Perhaps she had one of these in her family:Captain Crusoe wrote: "Tara King" is a very Irish name and she had an Irish uncle, so presumably she was at least half-Irish. That somehow seemed to undercut the "for King and country" bit for me. I spent a large part of Wish You Were Here wondering about Tara's sense of national identity. How committed to the British state did she feel, given the history of those two nations?
Her uncle's accent is southern Irish, not at all like the Ulster Protestant accent. She's no Ulster gal. Anyway, she wore green when she went to visit her uncle.dissolute wrote:She's an Ulster gal through and through - she *did* wear a lot of orange...Captain Crusoe wrote: "Tara King" is a very Irish name and she had an Irish uncle, so presumably she was at least half-Irish. That somehow seemed to undercut the "for King and country" bit for me. I spent a large part of Wish You Were Here wondering about Tara's sense of national identity. How committed to the British state did she feel, given the history of those two nations?
Don't you think it's a little bit far fetched ?Captain Crusoe wrote:Her uncle's accent is southern Irish, not at all like the Ulster Protestant accent. She's no Ulster gal. Anyway, she wore green when she went to visit her uncle.dissolute wrote:She's an Ulster gal through and through - she *did* wear a lot of orange...Captain Crusoe wrote: "Tara King" is a very Irish name and she had an Irish uncle, so presumably she was at least half-Irish. That somehow seemed to undercut the "for King and country" bit for me. I spent a large part of Wish You Were Here wondering about Tara's sense of national identity. How committed to the British state did she feel, given the history of those two nations?
Is her uncle by marriage, ie married to her parent's sister?Captain Crusoe wrote: Her uncle's accent is southern Irish, not at all like the Ulster Protestant accent. She's no Ulster gal. Anyway, she wore green when she went to visit her uncle.
There's nothing suggesting that, but I suppose he could be. I take the combination of her Irish name and her uncle being Irish as them indicating to us that she's Irish on her mother's side. It just fits so perfectly. I wasn't serious about her loyalties being conflicted, I was making an ironic comment about the politics. A lot of Irish people weren't Irish nationalists harbouring resentments, especially ones living in England like members of her family.Frankymole wrote:Is her uncle by marriage, ie married to her parent's sister?
She hasn't really got an Irish name if her mum was a "Gone With the Wind" fan... more southern States...Captain Crusoe wrote:There's nothing suggesting that, but I suppose he could be. I take the combination of her Irish name and her uncle being Irish as them indicating to us that she's Irish on her mother's side. It just fits so perfectly.Frankymole wrote:Is her uncle by marriage, ie married to her parent's sister?
Perhaps that some of her relatives are American, a sort of mix.Frankymole wrote:She hasn't really got an Irish name if her mum was a "Gone With the Wind" fan... more southern States...Captain Crusoe wrote:There's nothing suggesting that, but I suppose he could be. I take the combination of her Irish name and her uncle being Irish as them indicating to us that she's Irish on her mother's side. It just fits so perfectly.Frankymole wrote:Is her uncle by marriage, ie married to her parent's sister?
Every region in Britain had Kings in the Dark Ages though... I doubt if Linda had ever heard the term "The Kings of Tara" to be influenced subconsciously or no... an uncle isn't an ancestor eitherCaptain Crusoe wrote:As I said, it's the combination. The Irish uncle is a very big clue. You're saying that it's pure coincidence her uncle is Irish and she's got the name 'Tara', even 'Tara King', a name with a very strong Irish resonance because of the Kings of Tara, a name that could particularly appeal to an Irishwoman married to a Mr King.
My theory: Linda Thorson thought of the name for the reasons she gave, maybe or maybe not subsconsciously influenced by the phrase 'the Kings of Tara'.
