Avengers director's cut ?

Cariheart · Post by **Cariheart** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:00 pm

I actually gave in and bought the movie! Forgive me Syndey!

Timeless A-Peel · Post by **Timeless A-Peel** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:16 pm

Cariheart wrote:I actually gave in and bought the movie! Forgive me Syndey!

Every Avengers fan should watch the movie, IMO, so he/she can form his/her own opinion on it. As its own movie it's quite entertaining, actually. I just still don't think it makes a very good Avengers movie.

Dandy Forsdyke · Post by **Dandy Forsdyke** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:22 pm

Cash in.

Cariheart · Post by **Cariheart** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:48 pm

Thing is in the past I've watch it a couple of times and every time something new caught my eye. Initially, I had watched with prejudice. It marred my judgement of it. All-in-all, not a terrible movie in general but as Timeless said, not an Avenger -ish movie. Definitely not the spirit of Steed and Emma. Some of the fxs, scenery and music are great though.

Dandy Forsdyke · Post by **Dandy Forsdyke** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:37 pm

The scenery, costumes and SPFX should be impressive - in a budget of $80 Million. Everything else falls short, from the casting to the acting to the story to well, you name it. I mean I think it is a terrible movie, but that's just my opinion.

It was just a cash in and they thought they could get away with it. They probably expected a franchise.

Timeless A-Peel · Post by **Timeless A-Peel** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:36 pm

Dandy Forsdyke wrote:The scenery, costumes and SPFX should be impressive - in a budget of $80 Million. Everything else falls short, from the casting to the acting to the story to well, you name it. I mean I think it is a terrible movie, but that's just my opinion.

It was just a cash in and they thought they could get away with it. They probably expected a franchise.

They were planning on a franchise. I saw the movie before I saw the series, making me probably the only Avengers fan on the planet who had the chance to watch it without bias. I remember being quite clearly being asked what I thought of it afterwards, and I said it was fun. I had no idea there was some 37-year-old series behind it. It's better than a lot of the movies that come out nowadays (i.e., it has a plot). After I watched some of the Emmas I went back and rewatched it and spent a good hour lamenting what they'd done to poor Steed and Emma. But as a straightforward piece of entertainment, I've seen much, much worse.

Frankymole · Post by **Frankymole** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:49 pm

Cariheart wrote:I actually gave in and bought the movie! Forgive me Syndey!

Don't worry about it - I got it when it was in a bargain bin. It's an average movie - it's just not "The Avengers". I liked some of the design.

Borgus Weems · Post by **Borgus Weems** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:19 pm

Borgus Weems wrote:And is this true - Sean Connery's character was going to be a dodge & be killed half-way through - the real villain was going to be Mr. Peel! And that when executives saw that Connery wasn't going to be the main villain, they insisted it be reshot?

I'm quoting myself because I knew I had mentioned this somewhere on the board! If the above twists are truly from the original script, that in and of itself would probably have made the script a little more Avengers-like since in many episodes there is a harmless eccentric who is a possible suspect but gets killed, which for the film would have been Connery. If this was filmed, then I suspect that Sean would have been killed in the scenes with the teddy bear suits.

Now, if "Mr. Peel" had been the killer as I've heard was in the original script, was that version filmed and cut, or did they never cast Mr Peel?

Timeless A-Peel · Post by **Timeless A-Peel** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:18 pm

Borgus Weems wrote:
Borgus Weems wrote:And is this true - Sean Connery's character was going to be a dodge & be killed half-way through - the real villain was going to be Mr. Peel! And that when executives saw that Connery wasn't going to be the main villain, they insisted it be reshot?
I'm quoting myself because I knew I had mentioned this somewhere on the board! If the above twists are truly from the original script, that in and of itself would probably have made the script a little more Avengers-like since in many episodes there is a harmless eccentric who is a possible suspect but gets killed, which for the film would have been Connery. If this was filmed, then I suspect that Sean would have been killed in the scenes with the teddy bear suits.

Now, if "Mr. Peel" had been the killer as I've heard was in the original script, was that version filmed and cut, or did they never cast Mr Peel?

I've read the version of the script where de Wynter turns out to not be the villain (and gets killed partway through). It's floating around the 'net somewhere. But it's another version of the script entirely than the one that was filmed. Any scenes that were filmed and cut were from the final script that was used for the movie. There are bits and pieces that are similar between the two, but they were clearly transferred over to the new version during the rewrite. I doubt the old version got anywhere near the camera.

Borgus Weems · Post by **Borgus Weems** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:36 am

Thanks for that, Timeless - I'd always wondered about that bit!