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Never never say die

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:00 pm
by cyberrich
This week I watched Never. A great episode, but it may suffer from similarities with Return of Cybernauts and Positive negative man. Not quite as much subtle humour as usual, though Steed's line at the end,"Plastic politicians? Who would spot the difference?" is a classic line, and one that still seems appropriate 40-odd years later! Christopher Lee provides a great guest turn and looks suitably satanic. I also enjoyed the scene with the radio ham, though Emma's indifference at his sudden demise minutes after talking to him could have been handled better. I think the directors of some of the later episodes should have strived for greater depth. What do you all think of this one?
9/10

Re: Never never say die

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:04 pm
by DiVicenzo
cyberrich wrote:This week I watched Never. A great episode, but it may suffer from similarities with Return of Cybernauts and Positive negative man. Not quite as much subtle humour as ususal, though Steed's line at the end,"Plastic politicians? Who would spot the difference?" is a classic line, and one that still seems appropriate 40-odd years later! Christopher Lee provides a great guest turn and looks suitably satanic. I also enjoyed the scene with the radio ham, though Emma's indifference at his sudden demise minutes after talking to him could have been handled better. I think the directors of some of the later episodes should have strived for greater depth. What do you all think of this one?
9/10
Yes, I like this episode and as you say it is similar in ways to the other episodes but we have robotic doubles here. Christopher Benjamin (?) who played JJ Hooter is also in it and does a good turn when he keeps knocking down Frank N. Stone's (funnee!) robot. And, I like the end when Emma asks Steed if he finds her duplicate attractive and we have the 'Reject' sign on Steed's double's forehead which is at first hidden by his bowler - all very clever stuff :D

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:54 pm
by darren
This is one of those episodes were my memories just register irritation. Laurie Johnson's score is interminable (BAM BOM BAM BOM). Visually it's pretty dire. I've never been a fan of Robert Day's direction. The set design is uniformly drab. Emma wears a coat that looks like soggy cardboard. The repetitiveness of it is supposed to be funny but just becomes tedious.

I was very disappointed by this episode as The Complete Avengers book with the original script based synopsis had made it seem really interesting but the finished production is a real chore. A waste of some great actors (though I've never been a Christopher Lee fan but he's better in The Interrogators).

This episode is responsible for starting my dissatisfaction with season 5.

The only bit I like is the chess game played by stereotypes.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:20 pm
by Rodney
Christopher Lee is always wonderful, and the red-haired nurse - who was a contender to take over when Rigg left - is good fun but overall fairly moderate fair. 5/10

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:55 pm
by ricardomartins
I enjoyed "Never Never Say Die" pretty much spite being another variation of the Cybernauts.

The opening is one the best on season 5, Christopher Lee delivers a frightening performance and Patrick's fight with Lee in the hutt was stunning.

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:18 am
by Dandy Forsdyke
Rodney wrote: and the red-haired nurse - who was a contender to take over when Rigg left
Image

Patricia English.

Re: Never never say die

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:53 am
by mousemeat
cyberrich wrote:This week I watched Never. A great episode, but it may suffer from similarities with Return of Cybernauts and Positive negative man. Not quite as much subtle humour as usual, though Steed's line at the end,"Plastic politicians? Who would spot the difference?" is a classic line, and one that still seems appropriate 40-odd years later! Christopher Lee provides a great guest turn and looks suitably satanic. I also enjoyed the scene with the radio ham, though Emma's indifference at his sudden demise minutes after talking to him could have been handled better. I think the directors of some of the later episodes should have strived for greater depth. What do you all think of this one?
9/10
actually pretty good..holds up well, with repeated viewings